pat, it's important to remember rush limbaugh and everybody else tried to destroy john mccain. i didn't want john mccain to win the nomination because i didn't think he was conservative enough. guess what, john mccain won the nomination anyway. playing to the hard, hard, hard right base will not win primaries. don't you agree. >> look, i agree -- i think palin could get into finals. i basically agree with this but look at this. the red hot radio stuff. look where the country is, three of the top four best selling books on the "new york times" list, mark levin, dick morris, number one best seller on the paper back, glen beck, orielle number ten there. the country is in an angry populist mood. the bumper stickers, death panels, it's not sophisticated, but i'll tell you what is igniting these people, they have simple ideas and they are angry. >> sure, pat. the same thing igniting people on the left that said there was no god. you can read in 2003, 2004, god is dead. the god delusion, all a reaction to george w. bush, it's very natural. it will sell books, drive up ratings. it will